Good news! We got the car loan! YAY! Our "car man" Bob will be going to the auction for us on Tuesday and will be getting us an '05 or '06 Dodge Caravan. We have preapproval for up to $12,000 which is what we figured we would apply for, so as to keep the payments at an affordable level. We also have bought cars from Bob in the past and he ALWAYS gets great cars for way less than what they are worth. He was at the auction last week and was going to get us a 2005 Dodge Caravan, fully loaded (including an in car entertainment system...DVD Player etc)with 14,000 miles for only $12,000. The financing was not set yet, so obviously he didn't go for it. That should give you an idea though, of how good the cars are he gets. We did specifically request a minivan which, will be FABULOUS for our summer camping trip, but also will allow for more carpool room if needed.